[04:57:58-PM] tescosamoa: tonight on the channel we have captain kwok [04:57:59-PM] Katchoo: awww, and i wanted to dance with the bot [04:58:08-PM] * Katchoo starts an irish jig [04:58:18-PM] tescosamoa: and the topic will be kwok skool of planet design [04:58:19-PM] * narfpoitchezBOOM backs away from Katchoo [04:58:20-PM] MC_Fyron: Time for the guest speaker. [04:58:40-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: *drumroll* [04:58:40-PM] tescosamoa: I would like to take this time to thank kwok for his time and effort on this topic -: *chanserv* #se4 topic#SE4 Speaker #3 - Kwok Topic: Kwok Skool of Planet Design -ChanServ- topic#SE4 is an unknown command. -: *chanserv* #se4 topic #SE4 Speaker #3 - Kwok Topic: Kwok Skool of Planet Design [04:58:51-PM] *** ChanServ has changed the topic on channel #se4 to #SE4 Speaker #3 - Kwok Topic: Kwok Skool of Planet Design [04:58:51-PM] CaptainKwok: Is that my queue? [04:58:53-PM] *** tescosamoa is now known as mctesco [04:59:05-PM] mctesco: and on that note i will turn the channel over to kwok [04:59:06-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: no, it's your que [04:59:11-PM] *** Mode change "+o CaptainKwok" for channel #se4 by mctesco [04:59:33-PM] Taz: (drums) [04:59:38-PM] CaptainKwok: Greetings! [04:59:40-PM] * Katchoo waves a towel over his head and hoots [04:59:45-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: *exesive drums* [04:59:48-PM] DavidGervais: good evening Kwok [04:59:53-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: excesive [04:59:54-PM] mctesco: hey hey [05:00:00-PM] MC_Fyron: Good evening! [05:00:12-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: i vant to suck your vlood? [05:00:41-PM] CaptainKwok: Hello. Well, the topic I have chosen is making planet images. Does anyone have the programs that I suggested? [05:00:52-PM] MC_Fyron: So Mr. Kwok, how did you discover you were talented at making planets? [05:01:07-PM] CaptainKwok: i.e. Photoshop (or equivalent), Moray + POV-Ray (or 3d equiv)? [05:01:08-PM] DavidGervais: close, I have my usual standard.. ArtGem. ;) [05:01:35-PM] mctesco: i have the gimp [05:01:35-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: i got milkshape and i can make a sphere with it. [05:01:50-PM] CaptainKwok: I decided for the former Star Trek mod that I wanted to add more planets, so I set out to make some textures and through experimentation I developed a process that could make many new planets quickly. [05:02:04-PM] MC_Fyron: How many planets have you made [05:02:06-PM] MC_Fyron: ? [05:02:09-PM] CaptainKwok: Ok, the programs should be fine. [05:02:17-PM] CaptainKwok: I have made over 300 easily. [05:02:23-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: wow [05:02:28-PM] DavidGervais: I can aprieciate an 'automated process' ;) [05:02:38-PM] MC_Fyron: How many survived the infamous hard drive crash? [05:02:41-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* [05:02:53-PM] * MC_Fyron turns on the SILENCE sign [05:02:58-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: ok, that was a bit long. sorry [05:03:01-PM] DavidGervais: narf cut that out. [05:03:15-PM] *** Rollo has joined channel #se4 [05:03:17-PM] CaptainKwok: Zero survived. But I do have all the minis, just no portraits. [05:03:26-PM] DavidGervais: welcome Rollo [05:03:30-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: hi rollo [05:03:35-PM] Rollo: hi all [05:03:38-PM] Katchoo: hey Rollo [05:03:41-PM] MC_Fyron: Welcome Viking-with-too-many-shovels! [05:03:47-PM] DavidGervais: LOL [05:04:08-PM] Taz: Taz give Rollo a (b) [05:04:15-PM] MC_Fyron: So, care to begin your skool? [05:04:15-PM] Rollo: one cannot have too many shovels [05:04:24-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: we all got (b). why not (a)? [05:04:37-PM] DavidGervais: Kwok, what was the link to your site again? [05:04:37-PM] Taz: Taz give NArf a (b) to quiet him... [05:04:39-PM] CaptainKwok: (Link: http://members.rogers.com/stmod/files/planets.html)http://members.rogers.com/stmod/files/planets.html [05:04:45-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: two (b)! [05:05:21-PM] CaptainKwok: Ok, well I'm ready to start. Feel free to ask questions as we go through the general process. [05:05:27-PM] * Rollo wonders what (b) stands for and hopes it means beer [05:05:45-PM] mctesco: sure kwok [05:05:54-PM] * MC_Fyron notes that it shows a beer smiley in Trillian [05:05:56-PM] mctesco: explain away [05:06:20-PM] DavidGervais: what is the basic size of your texture map? [05:06:25-PM] CaptainKwok: I usually start by making a blank canvas in photoshop (or similar graphics program) of 400x200. [05:06:38-PM] * mctesco what is a blank canvas [05:06:46-PM] CaptainKwok: Nothing fancy, just a white background. [05:06:47-PM] DavidGervais: ok. done [05:07:30-PM] CaptainKwok: Tonight we'll make a typical Earth-like planet, so I usually fill the background with a nice blue colour... [05:07:45-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: done [05:07:52-PM] * MC_Fyron notes that he was the prodigal student of the founding of the Kwok Skool of Planet Design [05:08:10-PM] DavidGervais: Done [05:08:17-PM] * CaptainKwok notes that Fyron dropped out soon after [05:08:29-PM] MC_Fyron: :) [05:08:44-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: aww, someone said it before me [05:08:59-PM] CaptainKwok: Ok, got a nice blue for the ocean? [05:09:16-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: prodigal? prodigy. [05:09:17-PM] Katchoo: yep [05:09:20-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: yep [05:09:27-PM] DavidGervais: I made my blue background a gradient with a slightly darker blur on the top and bottom. [05:09:37-PM] CaptainKwok: At this point I like to use a photoshop effect under Filter : Artistic : Sponge [05:09:40-PM] DavidGervais: *darker blue [05:09:55-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: i'm using paint. not much to do. [05:10:28-PM] DavidGervais: tell me what the effect you are going for and I'll mimic it in AG. [05:10:37-PM] * MC_Fyron is unable to find the planet he made :( [05:10:45-PM] *** Kaladaar has joined channel #se4 [05:10:48-PM] * mctesco make a new one [05:10:54-PM] DavidGervais: Hi Kal [05:10:58-PM] * mctesco welcome kaladaar [05:11:02-PM] Kaladaar: Hey David [05:11:03-PM] * Taz gives Kaladaar a beer. [05:11:08-PM] CaptainKwok: The sponge effect creates little dabs of lighter and darker colour to the image. [05:11:10-PM] * mctesco were currenlty designing planets [05:11:15-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: hi kal, whatever a kal is. [05:11:24-PM] CaptainKwok: As if it were painted with a small sponge. [05:11:27-PM] Katchoo: any special settings for the sponge? [05:11:28-PM] * mctesco i will open up a private and send you the transcripts up to now [05:11:41-PM] CaptainKwok: I fade this effect to make it more subtle... [05:11:49-PM] DavidGervais: ok, simple in AG [05:11:50-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: i spray-painted mine with a dark blue [05:11:54-PM] Kaladaar: Kal iz a Kewl Kanuck K? [05:12:05-PM] *** Signoff: mctesco (Excess Flood) [05:12:28-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: GO CANADA! [05:12:35-PM] CaptainKwok: No special settings for sponge, just average values for each attribute option. [05:12:37-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: bye tesco? [05:12:42-PM] MC_Fyron: Keep the excess chatter down please. [05:12:51-PM] *** mctesco has joined channel #se4 [05:12:52-PM] *** Mode change "+o mctesco" for channel #se4 by ChanServ [05:13:05-PM] CaptainKwok: I use the effect to create the various shades of ocean colour you see from space or satellite etc... [05:13:13-PM] *** Kaladaar has left #se4 [05:13:38-PM] Katchoo: ready for next step [05:13:46-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: yep. [05:14:07-PM] CaptainKwok: members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet1.jpg [05:14:20-PM] CaptainKwok: woops (Link: http://members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet1.jpg)http://members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet1.jpg [05:14:33-PM] *** Kaladaar has joined channel #se4 [05:14:45-PM] Kaladaar: hates hitting the wrong keys [05:14:51-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: can't find it [05:15:10-PM] * Taz gives Kaladaar another beer. [05:15:10-PM] CaptainKwok: members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet-1.jpg [05:15:15-PM] CaptainKwok: (Link: http://members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet1.jpg)http://members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet1.jpg [05:15:28-PM] CaptainKwok: Ok, that's good! [05:15:30-PM] DavidGervais: bad link for me. [05:15:34-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: still coming up not found [05:15:42-PM] CaptainKwok: (Link: http://members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet-1.jpg)http://members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet-1.jpg [05:15:44-PM] CaptainKwok: Hyphen! [05:15:51-PM] DavidGervais: can you post in the #se4 kwok thread at shrapnel? [05:15:56-PM] CaptainKwok: Ugh. Bad night for cut and paste. [05:16:05-PM] CaptainKwok: Ok, time to make some land masses. [05:16:05-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: found [05:16:07-PM] DavidGervais: hmmm, mine looks better ;) [05:16:53-PM] DavidGervais: I'll keep a record and post my results on the forum so you can see my interpretation of your lesson. [05:16:57-PM] CaptainKwok: You can use a paintbrush tool with a shade of green to make some land masses. [05:17:19-PM] DavidGervais: ok,.. adding land.... [05:17:28-PM] Katchoo: what about the lasso? [05:17:39-PM] CaptainKwok: I like to use the lasso tool in Photoshop to outline many different continents at once. [05:17:57-PM] CaptainKwok: You make your first selection and then use shift+lasso to add more to the first. [05:19:18-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: mine has lots of coral. yeah, that's it. coral and islands. [05:19:24-PM] Katchoo: ok, and after you've added the others with the lasso.. [05:19:49-PM] *** Signoff: Kaladaar (Read error: EOF from client) [05:19:54-PM] CaptainKwok: Now just fill the selection with a nice green colour. [05:19:58-PM] MC_Fyron: Yippie! Found my planet: (Link: http://galileo.spaceports.com/~kazharii/planet/planet.html)http://galileo.spaceports.com/~kazharii/planet/planet.html [05:20:22-PM] CaptainKwok: The command is under Edit : Fill. [05:20:58-PM] Katchoo: the paintbucket works good too. [05:21:44-PM] CaptainKwok: Once you have land masses, use a paintbrush or airbrush tool to add regions of mountain-like or desert-like colours too. I prefer again to use the lasso tool in Photoshop to get a sharper edge to the different coloured regions. [05:22:11-PM] DavidGervais: adding mountains and desert.. [05:22:24-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: what color do you use for mountains? [05:22:59-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: no, really. gray? brown? white? all three? [05:23:04-PM] CaptainKwok: A nice grey-brown colour works good. [05:23:12-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: thanks. [05:23:45-PM] CaptainKwok: For deserts or forest colours, use what you think looks good. [05:24:20-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: yaay! mountain leading into desert! [05:25:23-PM] * Taz puts a lake in the middleof his desert... [05:25:33-PM] CaptainKwok: If you have Photoshop, I like to use the Texturized to add a bit of texture to the mountains and a little texture to the rest of the land. [05:26:01-PM] MC_Fyron: I did that with the whole planet on mine to get a nice broken coast effect. [05:27:37-PM] DavidGervais: let me guess next comes the clouds? right? [05:27:41-PM] CaptainKwok: No. [05:27:44-PM] DavidGervais: oops [05:28:17-PM] * Taz gives David a beer. [05:28:29-PM] CaptainKwok: You can add lots of character on your land masses using the burn and dodge tools of photoshop. They add darkness or lightness to the region you brush over. [05:28:45-PM] CaptainKwok: It's good to create regions of various colour and makes the land look more realistic. [05:28:59-PM] * mctesco good point [05:29:04-PM] MC_Fyron: Like mine? (Link: http://galileo.spaceports.com/~kazharii/planet/planet.html)http://galileo.spaceports.com/~kazharii/planet/planet.html [05:29:28-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: yep. [05:29:56-PM] MC_Fyron: I meant, such as mine, not, do you like it ;) [05:29:57-PM] Katchoo: where are the blur and dodge tools in photoshop? [05:30:15-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: oh. then i guess i don't like it:) [05:30:20-PM] CaptainKwok: They are under the paint bucket or short cut key O [05:30:31-PM] Katchoo: ahh, got them. thanks [05:31:19-PM] CaptainKwok: Once you are happy with details, again with Photoshop - I apply the Filter : Distort : Ocean Ripple effect. [05:31:37-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: how about everybody posts there planet after where done. then everybody can lau i mean admire mine [05:31:38-PM] CaptainKwok: This helps make the land and landscape more broken in appearance. [05:32:55-PM] CaptainKwok: (Link: http://members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet-2.jpg)http://members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet-2.jpg [05:33:10-PM] MC_Fyron: I guess Kwok does not feel my question to be worth answering :( [05:33:37-PM] CaptainKwok: I already said good job Fyron, over six months ago when you first made the planet. :P [05:33:48-PM] DavidGervais: lol [05:34:07-PM] DavidGervais: what's next Kwok? [05:34:32-PM] CaptainKwok: It's cloud time. [05:34:41-PM] CaptainKwok: I usually create a new layer for this part. [05:35:16-PM] DavidGervais: what about the polar caps? is that after the clouds?? [05:35:17-PM] MC_Fyron: No, I asked if the regions were more realistic in mine, as you were describing hte process of making different colored land regions [05:35:21-PM] CaptainKwok: It allows you to distort your initial clouds easily without interfering with the rest of the stuff... [05:35:28-PM] Taz: did you create a new layer for the land? [05:35:40-PM] MC_Fyron: That is a good idea to do. [05:35:48-PM] CaptainKwok: No, but you can if you want. [05:36:21-PM] CaptainKwok: I don't usually because I don't do anything that really requires it. [05:36:31-PM] Taz: I see.. [05:36:43-PM] DavidGervais: polar ice caps yes/no?? [05:36:50-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: is there any way to make a color transparent in paint? [05:36:58-PM] CaptainKwok: We'll skip ice caps for now. [05:37:12-PM] DavidGervais: ok. [05:37:20-PM] MC_Fyron: Not in paint. [05:37:39-PM] CaptainKwok: For clouds, use an airbrush tool at various transparencies (opacities) to create various levels of cloud cover. [05:37:45-PM] CaptainKwok: A white-gray works best... [05:38:14-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: actually, i just found it. [05:38:29-PM] * mctesco that map reminds me of the days making maps for total annihilation [05:39:58-PM] MC_Fyron: What map? [05:40:27-PM] CaptainKwok: Once you have some clouds, using some sort of blur or sponge tool can help smooth things out and make the clouds look much better. [05:42:36-PM] CaptainKwok: We've skipped the polar caps, but they're just land masses with a bit of texture and a white-grey colour and the ocean ripple effect too. [05:42:42-PM] CaptainKwok: (Link: http://members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet-3.jpg)http://members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet-3.jpg [05:42:57-PM] CaptainKwok: The planet with clouds after smudging and blurring. [05:43:54-PM] CaptainKwok: So, if you are done - save the image as a .bmp file or other compatible file you can use with your 3d program. [05:44:12-PM] Katchoo: well my planet ain't gonna look like that X-P [05:44:26-PM] CaptainKwok: Ice caps would run along the bottom, maybe occupying about 10% at either end. [05:44:42-PM] CaptainKwok: It takes practice and experimentation to achieve good results, but well worth it. [05:45:05-PM] CaptainKwok: Can we move on to the 3d portion? [05:45:10-PM] SupperJunkie: Oy, how do I make decent clouds? [05:45:17-PM] SupperJunkie: Mine all look ugly [05:45:29-PM] *** SupperJunkie is now known as Se4Junkie [05:45:34-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: mine looks like it's covered in snow. coral louds. yeah, coral clouds. at least your not using paint. [05:45:41-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: clouds [05:46:14-PM] Katchoo: we should showcase our planets afterwards on shrapnel. [05:46:16-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: yeah, lets do 3d. i know i can make a good sphere :) [05:46:28-PM] CaptainKwok: Clouds take practice, learning to use the airbrush at different pressures with different shades of white-grey takes practice. [05:46:38-PM] * Taz passes NArf ano beer. [05:46:56-PM] CaptainKwok: Ok, if you are using Moray (or other), create a new scene... [05:47:18-PM] * narfpoitchezBOOM Narf doesn't drink beer, so he builds a rocket racer and uses the beer as fuel. be very afraid. [05:47:21-PM] CaptainKwok: You'll want to create a sphere [05:48:24-PM] CaptainKwok: Is everyone who is following along ok? [05:48:45-PM] Taz: any particular size sphere? [05:48:58-PM] Katchoo: my question exactly ;-) [05:49:01-PM] CaptainKwok: If moray, I make it 2x2x2 [05:49:23-PM] Katchoo: done [05:49:28-PM] Taz: OK [05:49:37-PM] CaptainKwok: Also, again in Moray, create a camera at position 16x0x0 [05:49:47-PM] *** Signoff: narfpoitchezBOOM (Read error: Operation timed out) [05:49:56-PM] mctesco: a camera ? [05:50:01-PM] CaptainKwok: Set the field of view to 20.0 and the aspect ratio to 1.0 [05:50:15-PM] CaptainKwok: Yes tesco, a camera [05:50:17-PM] Se4Junkie: What format for the texture do we need? [05:50:33-PM] CaptainKwok: I use .bmp\ [05:50:34-PM] Se4Junkie: BMP? [05:51:11-PM] Se4Junkie: (Link: ftp://imagemodserver.mine.nu/planetsj.bmp)ftp://imagemodserver.mine.nu/planetsj.bmp [05:51:50-PM] Katchoo: ready [05:52:22-PM] CaptainKwok: Ok, now let's add the new texture... [05:52:33-PM] CaptainKwok: Use F8 for material editor [05:52:50-PM] CaptainKwok: Under Material : Create [05:53:07-PM] CaptainKwok: Give it a name and standard is fine. [05:53:19-PM] *** Signoff: Katchoo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [05:53:44-PM] *** Katchoo has joined channel #se4 [05:53:47-PM] CaptainKwok: (Link: http://members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet-4.jpg)http://members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet-4.jpg [05:53:56-PM] CaptainKwok: That is my completed planet. [05:54:10-PM] CaptainKwok: But first, let's help you guys get your textures set up. [05:54:12-PM] *** narfpoitchezBOOM has joined channel #se4 [05:54:29-PM] CaptainKwok: For those not using Moray, I'm not sure how you'll map your texture onto the sphere. [05:54:31-PM] MC_Fyron: That has all the land mass covered up. Very boring. ;) [05:54:42-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: i guess 6 tabs of netscape, mirc and 3 paint programs then milkshape was to much. [05:54:54-PM] Katchoo: sorry, but what came after the material name and standard? sorry, trillian kicked me out for some reason :-[ [05:55:09-PM] MC_Fyron: [05:52:22-PM] CaptainKwok: Ok, now let's add the new texture... [05:55:09-PM] MC_Fyron: [05:52:33-PM] CaptainKwok: Use F8 for material editor [05:55:09-PM] MC_Fyron: [05:52:50-PM] CaptainKwok: Under Material : Create [05:55:09-PM] MC_Fyron: [05:53:07-PM] CaptainKwok: Give it a name and standard is fine. [05:55:21-PM] Katchoo: k [05:55:22-PM] CaptainKwok: Right click on the name in the list and select pigment [05:55:50-PM] Katchoo: k [05:55:53-PM] CaptainKwok: Not the name, the [standard texture] part [05:56:04-PM] CaptainKwok: Right click again and add image map [05:56:16-PM] CaptainKwok: Select the path to your file... [05:56:18-PM] DavidGervais: fyi. I just booted up Anim8or and created a sphere, subdivided the faces to make it smoother then added the planet texture and it looks/works fine. [05:56:32-PM] DavidGervais: I can rotate and preview the planet in real time. [05:56:45-PM] CaptainKwok: That's good David. [05:56:58-PM] DavidGervais: If I want to make a pic, I just use the 'render preview' option. [05:57:01-PM] CaptainKwok: I usually use Moray, but I know it's easy too in other programs if not easier. [05:57:26-PM] CaptainKwok: For maptype choose spherical [05:57:58-PM] CaptainKwok: Then right click on the [standard texture] branch and select finish. [05:58:14-PM] CaptainKwok: This allows you to change the properties and interactions of your texture. [05:59:28-PM] CaptainKwok: We'll use 0.9 for ambient, 0.1 for diffuse, 5.0 for brilliance, 0.1 for phong, 10 for phong size, 0.1 for specular, 0.25 for roughness, and choose reflection and enter 0.01 [05:59:34-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: anybody know how to do it on milkshape? the texture's showing up in the preview window, but the assign buttoon doesn't do anything [05:59:56-PM] CaptainKwok: Perhaps select your object and then try again Narf [06:00:14-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: it is selected. [06:00:28-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: i'm not as drippy as i act. [06:01:00-PM] CaptainKwok: Ok, no offense was intended. :P [06:01:10-PM] CaptainKwok: Is everyone ok? [06:01:30-PM] Taz: in your example you have the ice cap on an angle... Did you rotate your sphere? [06:01:32-PM] Katchoo: if using moray, remember to deselect floor and wall checkmarks [06:01:49-PM] Katchoo: or your preview will look wonky, like mine just did [06:02:02-PM] CaptainKwok: Don't worry about that Katchoo, the preview doesn't really matter. [06:02:09-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: ok. [06:02:21-PM] CaptainKwok: BTW, does everyone who have Moray have POV-Ray? [06:02:24-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: except for the no-picture part. [06:02:33-PM] Katchoo: yep [06:02:54-PM] CaptainKwok: I do rotate the sphere sometimes to create different looks. [06:03:05-PM] Taz: K [06:03:38-PM] CaptainKwok: Is everyone's texture ok? [06:03:44-PM] Katchoo: yep [06:04:06-PM] CaptainKwok: If so exit material editor, create a light with the following attributes: [06:04:09-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: nope. [06:04:16-PM] CaptainKwok: Area light [06:04:46-PM] CaptainKwok: Narf - does it have a help file? I have never tried milkshape before so I wouldn't have the faintist clue what to suggest. [06:04:55-PM] CaptainKwok: With size of 1x1x1 [06:05:19-PM] CaptainKwok: Rotate at 90x0x45 and position at 9x12x0 [06:05:21-PM] Taz: k [06:05:31-PM] CaptainKwok: Got your lights? [06:05:38-PM] Taz: k [06:05:50-PM] Katchoo: yep [06:05:57-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: oh. i had to select textured from the right click file. yep, i was browsing the help file :) [06:06:13-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: don't think it has them. [06:06:29-PM] CaptainKwok: ok, select your sphere and apply your texture. [06:06:45-PM] DavidGervais: ok, my planet is posted here.. (Link: http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=009519)http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=009519 [06:06:51-PM] CaptainKwok: Then under Render go to Render Options [06:08:11-PM] CaptainKwok: I choose antialiasing with rays 3x3 and depth of 3..resolution of 128x128 and output format PNG for POV-Ray 3.5 or Bmp for POV-Ray 3.1 [06:08:46-PM] CaptainKwok: You may also want to set the path for POV output files to somewhere you can find your picture after it's rendered. :P [06:09:00-PM] CaptainKwok: That is also a part of the render options. [06:09:36-PM] CaptainKwok: Are all ok? [06:09:41-PM] Katchoo: yep [06:09:43-PM] * Taz passes himself a beer. [06:09:47-PM] Taz: yep [06:09:53-PM] CaptainKwok: Ok, well hit f9 to render! [06:10:29-PM] *** Signoff: DavidGervais (Ping timeout) [06:10:57-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: well, except for my bitmap copying it onto both sides instead of wrapping. [06:11:23-PM] CaptainKwok: Narf - check for some sort of setting that allows it to be mapped on using spherical or something like that. [06:12:50-PM] CaptainKwok: (Link: http://members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet-5.jpg)http://members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet-5.jpg [06:13:07-PM] CaptainKwok: If you have a slower computer, the render settings I gave you might take you sometime. :P [06:13:29-PM] CaptainKwok: On my old computer, a 300Mhz-PII, about 1-1.5min. [06:13:31-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: it has that, but you can't rotate the texture properly with it on. [06:13:35-PM] CaptainKwok: On new computer - 5sec [06:13:46-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: i'm going to double my image. [06:14:43-PM] CaptainKwok: Did everyone get an image? [06:15:05-PM] Taz: yes [06:15:24-PM] CaptainKwok: Ok, you can now open the image in Photoshop... [06:15:46-PM] *** DavidGervais has joined channel #se4 [06:15:46-PM] *** Mode change "+v DavidGervais" for channel #se4 by ChanServ [06:15:49-PM] CaptainKwok: Fill the background with black! Use antialias option for paintbucket to get a nice clean edge. [06:16:01-PM] Taz: ok [06:16:01-PM] DavidGervais: oops I closed the wrong window :) [06:16:10-PM] Katchoo: (Link: http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/newuploads/1058404289.bmp]1058404289.bmp)http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/newuploads/1058404289.bmp]1058404289.bmp [06:16:20-PM] Katchoo: that's my piece-du-resistance! [06:16:21-PM] * Taz passes David another beer. [06:16:56-PM] Katchoo: (Link: http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/newuploads/1058404289.bmp)http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/newuploads/1058404289.bmp [06:17:07-PM] Katchoo: that works better [06:17:15-PM] CaptainKwok: Select the planet only... [06:17:23-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: not only did i just realize that wouldn't work, it's back to not showing my texture for no apparent reason. [06:17:26-PM] CaptainKwok: i.e. select only the black then inverse selection... [06:17:44-PM] Taz: ok [06:18:10-PM] narfpoitchezBOOM: anyway, i gotta go. [06:18:27-PM] Taz: Katchoo, Mercury oceans?? [06:18:27-PM] *** Signoff: narfpoitchezBOOM (Quit) [06:18:44-PM] CaptainKwok: Use Select : Modify : Border and set it to 3 or 4. [06:18:57-PM] Katchoo: that, ketchup [06:19:03-PM] Katchoo: that, or ketchup [06:19:23-PM] Taz: Mustard land and katchup oceans!!! [06:19:24-PM] MC_Fyron: You are an odd one Katchoo [06:19:24-PM] CaptainKwok: Then under Image : Adjust : Brightness + Contrast [06:19:35-PM] Katchoo: LOL [06:19:43-PM] CaptainKwok: Increase the brightness for the border around the planet you select by 30-40%. [06:19:55-PM] CaptainKwok: Then use Filter : Blur [06:20:04-PM] CaptainKwok: Now you got a little atmosphere. :P [06:20:11-PM] Katchoo: you can use my Condiment Planet for the Adamant mod if you'd like. [06:20:22-PM] Taz: Aha, that's how you did that! [06:21:49-PM] Se4Junkie: Does anybody want to try rendering my desert planet? [06:22:04-PM] CaptainKwok: se4, send me the file. [06:22:06-PM] Se4Junkie: (Link: ftp://imagemodserver.mine.nu/planetsj.bmp)ftp://imagemodserver.mine.nu/planetsj.bmp [06:22:07-PM] CaptainKwok: sj [06:22:18-PM] CaptainKwok: no, don't ftp me with it. [06:22:31-PM] Se4Junkie: How then? [06:22:41-PM] CaptainKwok: send me the file. [06:23:17-PM] CaptainKwok: using trillain right? Send it to me directly... [06:23:37-PM] * Se4Junkie crosses fingers [06:24:41-PM] CaptainKwok: my bad [06:24:49-PM] DavidGervais: I just posted another planet,.. (Link: http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=009519)http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=009519 [06:25:49-PM] Taz: David, does your planet have TWO suns? [06:26:50-PM] DavidGervais: just one sun and a huge solar reflector ;) [06:27:04-PM] Taz: LOL [06:28:04-PM] * Se4Junkie thinks about bending that reflector to get a giant magnifying glass effect [06:28:56-PM] Taz: can you say: sunburn at midnight? [06:29:15-PM] DavidGervais: Sj to see the people? or as a weapon? [06:29:15-PM] CaptainKwok: (Link: http://members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet-6.jpg)http://members.rogers.com/capt-kwok/images/ircplanet-6.jpg [06:29:19-PM] CaptainKwok: Sj's desert planet [06:29:39-PM] Se4Junkie: Guess I need lots more detail [06:29:41-PM] Rollo: looks..umm. deserted [06:29:55-PM] Se4Junkie: Not totally horrible, though [06:30:04-PM] Rollo: no, not at all =) [06:30:10-PM] DavidGervais: Kwok is that planet made of Jello? ;) [06:30:26-PM] MC_Fyron: Need some more random variation of colors and lighting and such on the planet [06:30:29-PM] Rollo: mmm jello [06:31:08-PM] Se4Junkie: Static/Dust effect? [06:31:10-PM] Taz: Space Monster love jello... [06:31:41-PM] CaptainKwok: Well, I'm officially wrapping up the chat. But I liked to thank everyone who participated! [06:31:59-PM] * Taz passes Kwok a beer. [06:32:01-PM] Se4Junkie: Yay for the Capn'! [06:32:06-PM] CaptainKwok: I want to see lots of new planets eh? [06:32:06-PM] MC_Fyron: Congratulations on a successful Skool Kwok! [06:32:20-PM] CaptainKwok: Remember, this technique will be applicable to a new game coming out in the fall. :P [06:32:25-PM] MC_Fyron: Thank you everyone for coming, and dont be afraid to come back more often ;) [06:32:29-PM] * Katchoo hoots Arsenio style! [06:32:35-PM] Se4Junkie: wink wink nudge nudge [06:32:47-PM] Se4Junkie: Say no more! [06:32:54-PM] Se4Junkie: :) [06:32:57-PM] DavidGervais: Katchoo, your planet makes me think of an embryo for some reason. [06:33:02-PM] mctesco: Well Kwok thank you [06:33:10-PM] * Taz starts closing portable bar... [06:33:12-PM] MC_Fyron: :D [06:33:16-PM] mctesco: I would like to take this time to thank kwok for his time and effort [06:33:18-PM] Katchoo: an embryo for good, or evil? [06:33:23-PM] mctesco: Up next in two weeks is SJ [06:33:27-PM] mctesco: :) [06:33:35-PM] MC_Fyron: What will SJ's topic be? [06:33:36-PM] Taz: what topic for SJ [06:33:37-PM] DavidGervais: Applause, great session Kwok, thanks. [06:33:44-PM] CaptainKwok: Thanks. [06:33:47-PM] * Rollo claps [06:33:51-PM] mctesco: His topic will be given out later this week [06:33:56-PM] * Taz claps louder [06:34:13-PM] mctesco: We have to keep people in suspense some how , don't we sj ;) [06:34:13-PM] CaptainKwok: Feel free to e-mail questions. I'll be finishing the tutorial and expanding it to cover other planet types too by the end of the weekend. [06:34:16-PM] * Katchoo claps louder than Taz [06:34:18-PM] * Rollo rattles his shovel rack [06:34:28-PM] Se4Junkie: ;)